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Does anyone know what the advantages the H920 has over the Typhoon H? For this discussion, I'm not referring to the cameras (CGO4 vs CGO3+), the CGO4 is clearly a better camera than the CGO3+. I looked up the price of the CGO4 and I saw a ~$2,700 price tag.

H920 Specs
Air
Time 24 min
Diagonal Length Without Rotor Blades 36.2 in(920mm)
Propeller / Main Rotor Diameter 17.3 in (440mm)
Take-off Weight with GB603, GH4 Camera and Battery 176.0 oz (4990g)
Battery LiPo 6s 4000mAh 8C
Charger 100W 2 x output AC-DC Balancing Charger
Transmitter 16-channel 2.4GHz with 5.8GHz video downlink (included)
Flight Modes Waypoints, Orbit Me, Follow/Watch Me, Point of Interest, Journey, Smart, Curve Cable Cam, Angle and Home Modes
Maximum Flying Height (Absolute altitude) 4000m (13123 ft)
Maximum Flying Height (Relative altitude) 122m (400 ft)
Maximum Rotation Rate 100°/s
Maximum Roll Angle 35°
Maximum Horizontal Speed 40km/h
Radio Control Frequency Band 2.4GHz
Operating Temperature Range ﹣10℃ to 50℃

Typhoon H Specs
Flight Time
Up to 25 min
Size 20.5x18x12.2 in (520x457x310mm)
Airframe Weight (with Battery) 59.8oz (1695g)
Take-off Weight 368.8oz (1950g )
Battery 4S 14.8V LiPo Battery (POWER 4)
Battery Capacity / Voltage 5400mAh 4S/14.8V(79.9Wh)
Charger SC4000-4
Transmitter ST16 Personal Station Ground
Maximum Flying Height 122m(400ft) agl (Restricted by FAA )
Maximum Rotation Rate 85 deg/s
Maximum Roll Angle 35°
Maximum Climbing Speed 5m/s
Maximum speed in follow me mode 43.5mph (70km/h)
Maximum Descending Speed 3m/s
 
I believe the H920 plus can run with two batteries - 40 minutes flight time, is generally more stable with a higher (and larger) payload capacity and has a much more sophisticated autonomous flight mode.
 
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I believe the H920 plus can run with two batteries - 40 minutes flight time, is generally more stable with a higher (and larger) payload capacity and has a much more sophisticated autonomous flight mode.
That's good to hear... just looking at the specs, it couldn't tell. It listed all the same features of the Typhoon H.
 
It also allows control of the zoom function on the camera if you use the CGO4 camera.
 
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That's good to hear... just looking at the specs, it couldn't tell. It listed all the same features of the Typhoon H.

You have incompatible specs. You list max height on the H as 400ft (restricted by FAA). There is no restriction on the H to prevent it from flying higher. The FAA rules/guidelines of 400ft apply to both the H or the H920 unless you have a waiver if you're using it commercially.
For the H, you adjust the max height restrictions in the GUI software.
 
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I think providing the selfie mode on this professional machine could be the clincher.
Seriously though I think that not having smart batteries is a tremendous plus.

Hope to get a demo of one soon.
 
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You have incompatible specs. You list max height on the H as 400ft (restricted by FAA). There is no restriction on the H to prevent it from flying higher. The FAA rules/guidelines of 400ft apply to both the H or the H920 unless you have a waiver if you're using it commercially.
For the H, you adjust the max height restrictions in the GUI software.
You're Correct. It's a copy paste directly from Yuneec. Most of us will recognize the H can go much higher than the 400 AGL listed in the specs. Here's the source: Specs - Yuneec
 
I think providing the selfie mode on this professional machine could be the clincher.
Seriously though I think that not having smart batteries is a tremendous plus.

Hope to get a demo of one soon.
What I'm failing to see is image tracking... I don't want to have to hold the controllers to be tracked. DJI does it, why can't Yuneec give us a drone with this feature???
 
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What I'm failing to see is image tracking... I don't want to have to hold the controllers to be tracked. DJI does it, why can't Yuneec give us a drone with this feature???

Because it's a consumer feature that often doesn't work. Try walking behind a tree, following a pushbike that turns back towards the camera, or standing in a crowd. You'll note a lot of the demos of the image tracking feature are done in the middle of empty football fields. I don't know about you, but I rarely stand in the middle of football fields :)

Radio trackers are more reliable and allow more versatile positioning of the drone relative to the target.
 
Because it's a consumer feature that often doesn't work. Try walking behind a tree, following a pushbike that turns back towards the camera, or standing in a crowd. You'll note a lot of the demos of the image tracking feature are done in the middle of empty football fields. I don't know about you, but I rarely stand in the middle of football fields :)

Radio trackers are more reliable and allow more versatile positioning of the drone relative to the target.
That's all I want... track me in an open field (ie, like the beach). I wouldn't rely on full autonomy in a crowd or obstacle ridden area. However, I think DJI will be the first to provide the fully autonomous recreational/hobby drone since they are adding sensors all over their latest models. Radio trackers are more reliable, but destroy the natural shot, ie which is the reason a lot of people buy the flying cameras. When I'm in a canyon or mountain top... trust me.... I'm the only one there with nothing around me for miles. I've inserted some pix (Red Rock Canyon, Las Vegas) below were it would have been perfect for a Typhoon tracking feature.

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That's all I want... track me in an open field (ie, like the beach). I wouldn't rely on full autonomy in a crowd or obstacle ridden area. However, I think DJI will be the first to provide the fully autonomous recreational/hobby drone since they are adding sensors all over their latest models. Radio trackers are more reliable, but destroy the natural shot, ie which is the reason a lot of people buy the flying cameras.

The H920 is about as far from a recreational/hobby drone as it's possible to get :)

The Wizard for the H is a nice little controller - unless you're going swimming, it fits in a pocket or on your belt and you have it to hand when you want the drone to do something different. Better than the other option where you put down the controller and run off, hoping that the drone won't do anything silly. The 'wave to take a selfie' is a hilarious gimmick, but not a safe or reliable way to control a drone, and very limited in what you can actually do even when it does work. GoPro are apparently finding the same problem with the hands free modes on their cameras - they're just not very good in the real world.
 
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Does anyone know what the advantages the H920 has over the Typhoon H? For this discussion, I'm not referring to the cameras (CGO4 vs CGO3+), the CGO4 is clearly a better camera than the CGO3+. I looked up the price of the CGO4 and I saw a ~$2,700 price tag..


Which one do you have? If none, what is your goal? What are your main reasons for wanting a (Camera) drone?
Fun or Professional? Sound like you don't care much about Photography...

I hope you are referring to the H920 Plus. It seems to be a step up from the original H920.
 
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The H920 is about as far from a recreational/hobby drone as it's possible to get :)

The Wizard for the H is a nice little controller - unless you're going swimming, it fits in a pocket or on your belt and you have it to hand when you want the drone to do something different. Better than the other option where you put down the controller and run off, hoping that the drone won't do anything silly. The 'wave to take a selfie' is a hilarious gimmick, but not a safe or reliable way to control a drone, and very limited in what you can actually do even when it does work. GoPro are apparently finding the same problem with the hands free modes on their cameras - they're just not very good in the real world.
I put the H920 at the top end of recreational/hobby and the bottom end of professional. The H920 is limited (at least from info I have today) when compared to the drones in the $10k - $20k range. This is the basis of my question for the thread,

At almost 4 times the price of the Typhoon H, is the H920 providing 4 times as much quality and capability?
I personally don't think so from the specs I've read and the videos that I've seen. It's huge, not modular, limited camera options, and totally proprietary software. My thoughts right now is that for the price of the H920, I could buy a decent mirrorless camera, and then spend the rest on a custom build hex/octo to fly it. I have Typhoon H and I've reached the limits of this drone, and I'm looking for the next logical upgrade. I would like to stick with Yuneec, but they aren't giving me a lot of options. Perhaps my expectations are too high :-/
 
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I put the H920 at the top end of recreational/hobby and the bottom end of professional. The H920 is limited (at least from info I have today) when compared to the drones in the $10k - $20k range. This is the basis of my question for the thread,

At almost 4 times the price of the Typhoon H, is the H920 providing 4 times as much quality and capability?
I personally don't think so from the specs I've read and the videos that I've seen. It's huge, not modular, limited camera options, and totally proprietary software. My thoughts right now is that for the price of the H920, I could buy a decent mirrorless camera, and then spend the rest on a custom build hex/octo to fly it. I have Typhoon H and I've reached the limits of this drone, and I'm looking for the next logical upgrade. I would like to stick with Yuneec, but they aren't giving me a lot of options. Perhaps my expectations are too high :-/
Sounds to me that is exactly what you need to do. Build your own. I hope you can find all the features you are looking for with a DIY setup.
As @Tuna points out, the Wizard watch/follow me mode is the best I've seen in real world applications. Part of the reason is the ability to follow terrain; altitude changes. The object tracking setups I have seen do not change altitude and therefor are limited in real world scenarios. In addition object tracking requires 2 people. The one being tracked and the one with the controller. The Wizard required 1 and there is no need to go back to the controller location after the shoot.

You started this thread asking the difference between the H and the H920, then added DJI tracking and then go on to compare the H920 to machines in the $10K to $20K range. I am confused by what you are really looking for. Perhaps you can refresh your question with a bit more clarity.
 
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Sounds to me that is exactly what you need to do. Build your own. I hope you can find all the features you are looking for with a DIY setup.
As @Tuna points out, the Wizard watch/follow me mode is the best I've seen in real world applications. Part of the reason is the ability to follow terrain; altitude changes. The object tracking setups I have seen do not change altitude and therefor are limited in real world scenarios. In addition object tracking requires 2 people. The one being tracked and the one with the controller. The Wizard required 1 and there is no need to go back to the controller location after the shoot.

You started this thread asking the difference between the H and the H920, then added DJI tracking and then go on to compare the H920 to machines in the $10K to $20K range. I am confused by what you are really looking for. Perhaps you can refresh your question with a bit more clarity.
My original question still stands... "what are the advantages of H920 over the Typhoon H?" It's a new product so there isn't much info out there yet. But from what I've seen so far (which isn't that much), it seems like the H920 is a bigger version of the Typhoon H that comes with a camera that can zoom in a lil bit. So far the responses are, it can carry a 3rd battery for longer flight times, and it can zoom in... neither of which are really impressive. I'm thinking that if someone is a Typhoon H owner, then the H920 may not be the best option for an upgrade, being the Typhoon H has 80% of the capability of the H920, but I'm looking to be corrected or told that my logic is in error on this thread.
 
Take the gimmicks away and for serious work the 920+ has the CGO4 with high quality GH4 recording. Panasonic know how to make cameras other drone manufactures think they know how to reinvent this particular wheel.
You cannot compare the H with a big build DSLR rig.
 
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You talk about buying a mirrorless, building your own Hex/Octo for the same money as an H920. Why bother? The H920 has a great controller, a (very very decent) mirrorless camera with control over settings directly from the controller, is designed by a company that specialises in electric aviation so will have better flight time and reliability than you can probably achieve.
Trust me, I built for 5 years before I bought my H and a Mavic, unfortunately self built in this price range can no longer compete with the integration these latest birds provide. Self building now is if you need a custom rig for a specific job, I will most likely never self build for a general purpose aerial camera again, there's just no way it'd ever match up unfortunately.
 
I personally don't think so from the specs I've read and the videos that I've seen. It's huge, not modular, limited camera options, and totally proprietary software. My thoughts right now is that for the price of the H920, I could buy a decent mirrorless camera, and then spend the rest on a custom build hex/octo to fly it. I have Typhoon H and I've reached the limits of this drone, and I'm looking for the next logical upgrade. I would like to stick with Yuneec, but they aren't giving me a lot of options. Perhaps my expectations are too high :-/​
I don't know what you expect of a high end drone, but apart from large payloads and longer flight times, that's pretty much what you get for your money. Flight times and weight follow a square law, so it takes far more than double the machine to last twice as long in the air. Despite the hype from some manufacturers, spending thousands more on a drone doesn't get you any magic sauce that isn't available on smaller models - but bigger machines tend to last longer and be more stable in the air.

You say you've 'reached the limits' - a lot depends on what you view as limits. Do you want a significantly better camera? Longer flight times? To fly beyond line of sight? You seem to be sure you don't want a H920 - but one minute you're talking about taking selfies on the beach, the next you want to build an octo...

It's true you can build your own. I work alongside a company that builds drones for commercial survey work. They spend months putting together a machine, and then spend as much time on maintenance as they do flying. It's never quite right, and always slightly behind the 'current tech'. Now, if you like the mechanical tinkering, that's great, but if you just want to fly it's a complete waste of your resources. For a decent spec machine, you won't really save any money over just buying a decent consumer offering, which comes with warantee and predictable build quality. On top of that, if you have the H920+ you'll be able to swap across the full range of Yuneec cameras (and there are more to come).​

It might be that you need more than one drone, but first you need to be clear with yourself what your use cases are that aren't met by your current machine.
 
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