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I have a Typhoon H and everytime I start it up and give it power to lift, I get a warning "Motor error! Enter Five rotor mode! Please land immediately". At different times the white rotor stops and sometime the black one. And other time none stop but I get the same message. What are my options. It's only been in the air 4 times.
 
I have a Typhoon H and everytime I start it up and give it power to lift, I get a warning "Motor error! Enter Five rotor mode! Please land immediately". At different times the white rotor stops and sometime the black one. And other time none stop but I get the same message. What are my options. It's only been in the air 4 times.

Are the props the ones that came with your Typhoon H? I've not heard of having white and black props unless they are after market props.

I would also advise to double check that the props are secure and that the center button on each one is fully up. Keep us posted.
 
I have a Yuneec H480 that I bought a few years ago very cheaply because it got into 5 motor mode occasionally. I tried replacing the motors not working but with limited success.
Recently I opened the drone thinking I would replace the mother board and see if this fixes the issue. During disassembly I found, so far, three dry solder joints on the red/blue/black power feed to the engines. Two on the mother board (blue wires) and one on one the male contact on a wire from the motor (I don't remember the color). The interesting thing is that the multi strand wires look absolutely "dry" with almost no traces of solder.
I have fixed the solder joints and when the battery is charged I will do a test flight again :) . If I get a new five motor fault again I will re-do all motor power connections. A power feed problem is very easy to feel by rotating the motor. If one or more power feed is disconnected the motor turns extremely smoothly. When the power connectors work the motor works as a generator and turning it one feels the breaking force from the windings.
Notice that fault finding as such is fun so even if I haven't done much flying with this specific drone the fault finding has been interesting. I have mostly flown Q500 and like it very much.

After the long intro above a question:
Has anybody else seen similar "dry" solder joints? I have a feeling that the reason for the problem could be that the previous owner possibly stored the Drone in a cold shed during a few winters. We are talking about Finland and a possible storage temperature of -30 deg C (-22 F) or below for a few months. Today's solder is essentially pure Tin which means that in cold temperatures below 13 deg C (55 F) the Tin structure changes from metallic to non conducting powder. Combined with vibrations this could explain the observed "dry" solder joints?
Has somebody else seen a similar problem possibly related to low storage temperature?

Test flight:
The test flight result was slightly mixed. I hovered for perhaps 10 minutes without any problem. Starting moving the drone more aggressively caused 5 rotor mode but landing without problems. After re-starting the drone I wasn't able to reproduce the error. My feeling is that I have one or more additional similar problems where I higher power load triggers 5 motor mode possibly because additional solder points are marginal for the power required. Probably it is a good idea to re-do all the motor connections ... when I get enough red/blue/black heat shrink tubes :) .
 
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So far it has been three different motors :) the last one very obvious. My next step will be to first re-solder every single power feed to the motors simply because some have been detached. Solder joints have to be checked both for the male and female connectors and the soldering of the female lead to the motherboard. My assumption is that if I have found three obvious solder spots that are bad then the probability that there are more is very high. The fastest and simplest option is to re-solder.
 
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I run a test using the TyphoonHGUI. My initial problem was to find a Windows computer, I run Linux. I found an old laptop with windows 7 that worked. Has anybody been able to run the TyphoonGUI under Wine ;) ? The program reported the ESC as OK. Testing the different motors resulting in all working but the left hand front motor (when looking from the back towards the front) has a clearly different sound than the other motors. Doing a test flight a few days ago, see this thread, caused a 5-motor fault. Looking at the flight log I found the motor status going from 255 (OK I guess) to 254 which I guess is motor number one which I assume is the front left hand side motor with the different sound. The relevant line in the log is I think shown below. The motor status stayed 254 until landing and switch off.

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After switch of I restarted the drone and the motor status was 255 and simple hovering didn't cause the error. My feeling is that the motor status and different motor sound points towards a marginal motor that fails when the power is increased.

My guess is that the best option is to replace the motor. I plan to order two motors to have one spare. I plan, of course, to order NEW motors not preowned. Are there possibilities to mix up the motors between different Typhoon H versions? My version is, I think a Typhoon H480 where the measured distance between diagonal motors is 480 mm.

As can be seen from the log I live fairly far north (60.12 deg N). The temperature was roughly 0 deg C that is roughly freezing.
Thanks for the help!
 
Sorry the paste of the log lines clearly didn't work.
The important info is motor status 255 --> 254.
 
Are there possibilities to mix up the motors between different Typhoon H versions
Just make sure you order a motor for the H480 and it will be fine. The A and B motors are identical. Only the prop mount is different and it can be changed to either A or B.

Most motor problems I have seen are the result of something magnetic stuck to the magnet inside the motor. Those magnets are very strong and it is difficult to remove anything that has stuck to them.
 
I happened to see a warning regarding the 330uF electrolyte capacitors, there are 6 black capacitors in a Typhoon H480. I replaced all of them and measured the capacitance, ESR and VLOSS of both the old and the new capacitors. All the old capacitors had values clearly below 330uF (5-10%). I found one motor in the "million box" that felt OK when I rotated it by hand so I replaced the number one left hand front motor. After this I did a test flight without the camera with altitude increases/decreases and some moving side ways. So far no five motor error mode. I will probably do a longer test flight tomorrow flying in a surrounding with less obstacles if something happens and allowing a more aggressive flying.

Replacing the capacitors was fairly straight forward. My guess is that the new capacitors are probably lower quality than the old ones, didn't know what to buy so I bought standard capacitors with the correct capacitance and voltage rating. It is possible that I will replace the capacitors with better ones ... opening the drone is a fast process today for some strange reason ;) . After repeating the operation a number of times everything feels very easy. A link to the thread causing me to replace the capacitors is given below. Again thanks for a site providing lots of help.

I got a message from FEDEX that my new motors probably will arrive today.

 
The capacitors must be "LOW ESR" capacitors.
Thanks. This was also my guess after measuring the original capacitors. I will replace the capacitors with better ones if I succeed in replacing the motor #1 MOSFET #2.
I did a new test flight ... five motor error again and a broken propeller :) . I decided to replace the main ESC board. This is now done but waiting for a new propeller set. Looking forward to the next test flight ;) .

With the main board/ESC removed I was able to measure the MOSFETs on the underside. Measurements indicated that there is something spooky regarding motor #1 MOSFET #2 counted left top bottom mid top bottom right top bottom as seen from the center of the board "up" towards motor #1 MOSFETs. Doing a diode test/resistance measurement gave a very consistent roughly 56kOhms between source and drain in both directions for all MOSFETs but MOSFET 2 on motor #1 (MOSFET 1.2).

I plan to replace the MOSFET #1.2 mostly as an exercise in replacing surface mounted components. My feeling is that there may be a bad solder joint and not necessarily a faulty MOSFET because occasionally I also get a reasonable measurement from the "faulty" component. A bad solder joint would explain why I have been able to take off normally but getting five motor fault later in the flight possibly caused by vibrations.

For those interested the six power MOSFETS driving a motor are of the type Toshiba TPCA8055-H (total 36 MOSFETs). There is another set of MOSFETs controlling power from the battery these are International Rectifier IRFH9310. On the top side of the main board there are drivers for the power MOSFETs these are International Rectifier IRS2003SPbF.

Again thanks for help and suggestions!
 
I got a set of new propellers yesterday. Today the weather is fairly OK so it is possible to do flight test with the Typhoon H480 where I replaced the mainboard/ESC. The GUI program seemed to work Ok but I had some problems binding the drone to the controller when I had created a new H480 model. The camera was recognized without problems but camera movements up/down side ways didn't work. The problem was solved by using the original model that had used the old mother board ... and camera control started working. Probably I did some mistake when creating a new model "H480_new_eac".
I charged the battery and the controller and did a short test flight outside our house but I didn't want to do more tests in the fairly crowded place surrounded by weak sea ice. After a possible crash it could be difficult to retrieve the drone. Driving to "Glasdalen" in english "The glass valley" provided suitable open fields for a first real flight. Before the flight I did Accelerometer and Compass calibrations.
The first flight in Glasdalen was a success but I lost contact to the camera (WiFi connection lost). Slightly strange because the drone was fairly close. I landed picked the drone from the air by hand ... I feel this is safer than landing in the ordinary way.
After drone restart I did another flight now testing the functions like landing gear (not found on my G500), doing panning and of course not remembering to lift the landing gear at one stage.
Geographically the location is slightly to the west of the Finnish capital Helsinki at 60.12 deg N. The winter has been fairly warm and wet and the ground is showing green areas even if spring is one and a half moth away ... or possibly even more. In the summer cows are grazing in this area.
Test flight in Glasdalen. The video clearly indicates that I am not used to the ST16 controller. Two small rivers meet the sea in Esboviken (the bay of Esbo). The flying area is a very wet and flat river delta. The video as such is boring but shows that the drone seems to work :
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The first mainly hovering test flight was flown here (video recorded a few days earlier). The video shows views of the archipelago where I live and it is possible to see Helsinki at the Horizon and Mattby/Gäddvik in the town of Esbo slightly closer :
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Again thanks to all!
 
I love Finland. Worked for Nokia sometimes ago and was two times in Espoo.
So we have been working in the same technical area, Telecom. I worked for Ericsson in product development and as an innovation coach in Kirkkonummi slightly more to the west.
 
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