Wish List/Improvements

[kyle925]

Love the H and it is more versatile compared to P4 when it comes to Photography/Videography. That is why I bought it instead of the P4. But I do have a wishlist for Yuneec to consider and im hoping they're reading this. Here goes:

- A professional qlty camera with lens attachments options. Also, this camera should be a dual camera. The primary camera for taking videos ( video operator) and the secondary camera ( a little peep hole cam) should just be a stationary cam for FPV use ( for the pilot) Once you use 2 ST16s.
- Better professional camera setting options in the software (add aperture settings). Also some zebra and exposure data. Also some grid lines. An option to save ur favorite settings so that by just pressing a button, you're set to go on whatever situation ur in. Use the "cross " buttons for the cam settings instead of scrolling the tablet w/c is tedious.
- Reprogram the wizard as a "watch me" device in ANGLE MODE. I find it useless ( and dangerous - unless you have the real sense technology ) to be using the wizard in Team mode. Why not just use it as a watch me device for the camera only and still have the ST16 as the pilot. In this case, you can move the bird any w/c way you can, but the camera is following the subject carrying the wizard. This will definitely give the operator control on the piloting only and not worry about aiming the the video target when flying.
- a manual mode option to totally control the bird in dire situations. Cant rely on GPS all the time. Ur manual piloting skills might be in the end as a last resort.
- Better on screen and real time telemetry. The P4 is far superior on this matter. Everything is on ur screen when u operate it.
- Vision positioning system like the P4 w/c is just "Rock solid" stable when it hovers.

 

[DroneClone]

"If You Wish Upon A Star" LOL ! Be nice !

 

[Bullseyeman]

I would settle for intelligent batteries, enhanced collision avoidance, better MAC support and compatibility and knobs instead of toggle switches.

 

[Shadowolf]

Why intelligent batteries? You should know if they are charged or not. Or as some do use a rubber band around the charged ones. I would rather see improvements in the camera and functions.
The Wizard ad a watch device as OP said. Also more information on the screen like compass for starters. Also more options for the camera timelapse and pano settings.
Also improve the gimbal as it is giving a tilted horizon on some shots.

 

[PatR]

I would settle for intelligent batteries, enhanced collision avoidance, better MAC support and compatibility and knobs instead of toggle switches.

I would settle on users being intelligent enough to understand their batteries. CA is not something I have any concerns over since I don't get so close it can run into things. Flight planning, safety, and all that mumbo jumbo.

 

[Tuna]

There will be a few more tools coming out when the SDK is available, but as I've said in other discussions, a lot depends on demand. If a handful of people want specialist camera controls, it's just not going to be worth spending the time writing them. On the other hand, there are some tricks and special features I've been thinking about, so hopefully it will be possible to show some of those off eventually.

A camera with swappable lenses and aperture control will add quite a bit to the hardware costs of the Typhoon. Most of the times that gets brought up, what people are saying is they want all this extra functionality without increasing the cost. It's not going to happen. There's a reason the H920 and Inspire 2 (both with much better cameras) cost a **** of a lot more than the Typhoon.

Some of the other stuff is just different between drones and something to live with. Vision positioning systems are no good at any decent sort of height, and on a well calibrated Typhoon, hover at height is pretty much rock solid. There is a manual mode for non-GPS flight - it's automatic if signal is lost, but you can disable GPS at will and fly like that whenever you like. It's worth doing every now and then to remind yourself how it feels to fly without pilot aids.

It's always worth re-reading the manuals, and threads on here. Sometimes people are butting their heads up against their machines because they've just assumed that you achieve certain results by doing specific steps. Those steps might not work with the Typhoon, but it usually has ways to get the results you need if you step back and look at the problem from fresh.

 

[Bullseyeman]

I would settle on users being intelligent enough to understand their batteries. CA is not something I have any concerns over since I don't get so close it can run into things. Flight planning, safety, and all that mumbo jumbo.

Different strokes for different folks. You are obviously intelligent enough to look at a battery and tell it's approximate charge level. I prefer LEDs. And I like auto discharge feature for safer storage.

 

[PatR]

If I had my druthers I would prefer a telemetry system that provided indicators for current load, battery voltage, and mA consumed. Battery mA capacity would be input at the beginning of a flight for baseline reference. That system would also provide for a user selectable low voltage warning level with an auto land trigger at a user specified voltage level. The above presumes a user had developed adequate system and product knowledge to take advantage of such features. Having those features also significantly reduces the cost of batteries since so called "Smart" technology is not needed. Such features are available. Standard configuration batteries can be obtained from numerous manufacturers at lower cost.

The ST-16 displays voltage for both the flight and controller battery, so a glance at the ST-16 periodically provides a user the basic battery information necessary to conduct a flight safely. Personally, I find it adequate for those willing to periodically refer to the display screen. I do not find it reasonable for manufacturers to need to copy DJI methodology. People that need that functionality have the option of purchasing a DJI product if such features are high on their "must have" list. Of course they will be paying more for their batteries.

Ultimately, the manner in which some manufacturers are configuring their batteries does not truly benefit users, it only drives up the price of batteries and increases profitability for the OEM.

 

[glider]

1) Paying an extra $100 for a "smart" battery is not something I like spending money for.
2) Lidar/sonar (depending on application) for alt estimates is far superior to GPS, particularly necessary for terrain following. It also can double as OA
3) Terrain following
4) More options for RTL
5) Ability to turn off auto RTL if running a mission and signal is lost. There are good reasons for this.
6) Button option to turn off GPS mode.

While I really like how Yuneec has been improving the Typhoon H fw, if I could I'd install a PH 2.1 with Arducopter Master for Solo utilizing its camera features but for the camera system on the H (360 deg). Anyone keeping track of AC 3.5, what the devs are doing is simply amazing.

Until the SDK is available, we can only be content with what we have. For my purposes the H works well, but since this is a wish list thread, just my 2c.

 

[Dr Delta]

1) Paying an extra $100 for a "smart" battery is not something I like spending money for.
2) Lidar/sonar (depending on application) for alt estimates is far superior to GPS, particularly necessary for terrain following. It also can double as OA
3) Terrain following
4) More options for RTL
5) Ability to turn off auto RTL if running a mission and signal is lost. There are good reasons for this.
6) Button option to turn off GPS mode.

While I really like how Yuneec has been improving the Typhoon H fw, if I could I'd install a PH 2.1 with Arducopter Master for Solo utilizing its camera features but for the camera system on the H (360 deg). Anyone keeping track of AC 3.5, what the devs are doing is simply amazing.

Until the SDK is available, we can only be content with what we have. For my purposes the H works well, but since this is a wish list thread, just my 2c.

Still learning every day (of course) and still being surprised by (more or less) important abbrevations. Wat is RTL (over here it is a TV broadcasting firm).
Does writing in full result in so much more fatigue?

Cheers!

 

[Bullseyeman]

If I had my druthers I would prefer a telemetry system that provided indicators for current load, battery voltage, and mA consumed. Battery mA capacity would be input at the beginning of a flight for baseline reference. That system would also provide for a user selectable low voltage warning level with an auto land trigger at a user specified voltage level. The above presumes a user had developed adequate system and product knowledge to take advantage of such features. Having those features also significantly reduces the cost of batteries since so called "Smart" technology is not needed. Such features are available. Standard configuration batteries can be obtained from numerous manufacturers at lower cost.

The ST-16 displays voltage for both the flight and controller battery, so a glance at the ST-16 periodically provides a user the basic battery information necessary to conduct a flight safely. Personally, I find it adequate for those willing to periodically refer to the display screen. I do not find it reasonable for manufacturers to need to copy DJI methodology. People that need that functionality have the option of purchasing a DJI product if such features are high on their "must have" list. Of course they will be paying more for their batteries.

Ultimately, the manner in which some manufacturers are configuring their batteries does not truly benefit users, it only drives up the price of batteries and increases profitability for the OEM.

 

[Bullseyeman]

Typhoon H is a recent addition to my "fleet" which includes the Phantom 4 and Mavic. The price difference for OEM batteries is $20 which was not a deterrent for me given what I already mentioned plus longer flight time. But I get your point.
Now given that DJI has 70% market share in North America ($5000 and up) compared to 8% for Yuneec, it would seem) battery pricing is a non issue.

 

[PatR]

You're prolly right in your last but Tattu batteries for the H can be had for $55.00. They are at minimum equal to the OEM H battery. That was just to illustrate how much we are getting bent over by smart battery, proprietary battery shell, designs.

 

[ArnhemAnt]

Wat is RTL (over here it is a TV broadcasting firm).

Cheers!

RTL = Return To Land. For the Typhoon, the abbreviation frequently used is RTH, which means Return to Home.

As for the thread topic, it is fine to have a wish list, however, I am pretty darn impressed with what Yuneec have provided, particularly at the price. I'd be surprised if most users were actually using all of the current features to their full potential.
I guess it is human nature to always want/desire more.

Me, I'm pretty content with what I have.

 

[wishie]

For now, I have one simple request, which would be easy to solve in firmware.

When shooting in panorama mode, the files should be named differently.. instead of YUNxxxxx.DNG, they should be something like PANOxxxxx.DNG to make them easier to sort.. sometimes I take a lot of photos on a job, and they can be pretty similar.. sometimes it would be easy to be able to quickly see where the PANO shots start and finish.

 

[Gurusonwheels]

For now, I have one simple request, which would be easy to solve in firmware.

When shooting in panorama mode, the files should be named differently.. instead of YUNxxxxx.DNG, they should be something like PANOxxxxx.DNG to make them easier to sort.. sometimes I take a lot of photos on a job, and they can be pretty similar.. sometimes it would be easy to be able to quickly see where the PANO shots start and finish.

i agree 100%

 

[lufkin]

"Reprogram the wizard as a "watch me" device in ANGLE MODE. I find it useless ( and dangerous - unless you have the real sense technology ) to be using the wizard in Team mode. Why not just use it as a watch me device for the camera only and still have the ST16 as the pilot. In this case, you can move the bird any w/c way you can, but the camera is following the subject carrying the wizard. This will definitely give the operator control on the piloting only and not worry about aiming the the video target when flying."

This is the one thing I have wished/asked for many times. Until that day comes I have 0 use for my wizard wand. Still haven't even used it once yet

 

[Ty Pilot]

I like where Yuneec positioned the Typhoon H in the market, it has a lot of great features at the current price point. Adding all the features one could image (and I can imagine a lot) would likely put the price into a different realm, in fact it would change the craft altogether. That said, I would gladly pay for a better/upgraded camera. Not one with interchangeable lenses, and all that - there is the 920 for that. Just give us the option for a camera that is one step above the CG03+ - maybe a 1 inch sensor? I think any weight gains would be minimal so this would not necessitate any change to the platform in any meaningful way.

I think that would put the Typhoon right-smack-dab in the center of the prosumer market where (in my opinion) this craft belongs. I'm guessing most of the outfits using these for work are doing real estate, crop inspection and so on, basic stuff not necessarily where more expensive rigs would be economical to use. They (Yuneec) could keep the current crop of non-commercial users and; with a better camera, keep some commercial users who currently using the Typhoon - from moving on.

Yuneec recently posted the new H520 on their site. They show two new cameras; The E90x and E50x. If they made these capable of being operated on the Typhoon H and they have higher performance and specs than the CG03+, I'll be happy with the H.

Pat

 

[Airtography]

1. Separate Video and Picture Settings -- shouldn't have to go into video to set pic settings.
2. Exposure adjustments
3. Turn off that god-awful GPS Lost haptic messaging when not airborne!
4. Sharpness, contrast, and brightness controls
5. Change voltage read-out to show percentage in addition to voltage.
6. Option to disable dumb //// i mean smart mode
7. Sequential file names without having to keep the last file on the SD Card
8. Fix the date/time issue for Daylight Savings time
9. Telemetry annunciation (battery, gps, altitude, distance)
10. Camera settings that stick -- i.e. remember settings after re-booting the H or 16 -- like center/spot/average metering mode and manual WB and other settings.
11. Adjust camera to be less sensitive to RED and White colors (yes this can be done post -- but why not fix the camera).
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[Snagglesworth]

"Reprogram the wizard as a "watch me" device in ANGLE MODE. I find it useless ( and dangerous - unless you have the real sense technology ) to be using the wizard in Team mode. Why not just use it as a watch me device for the camera only and still have the ST16 as the pilot. In this case, you can move the bird any w/c way you can, but the camera is following the subject carrying the wizard. This will definitely give the operator control on the piloting only and not worry about aiming the the video target when flying."

This is the one thing I have wished/asked for many times. Until that day comes I have 0 use for my wizard wand. Still haven't even used it once yet

I've asked for the same many times but it's not been possible due to frequencies that the controllers are on. In team mode the wizard is main controller working on 2.4ghz, the st16 controlling camera on 5.8ghz. The wizard only has 2.4, so if you want the st16 to fly the craft it would have to be done on 5.8. This was not possible but since the last couple of fw updates we got 5.8 control redundancy added so in theory this is now possible. All we need is the coders to get their fingers moving!