Jester,
Just how many "honest mistakes" made by "inexperienced" people need to be coddled before they start getting called out? Why are inexperienced people even flying with an expensive camera rig? Why would an "inexperienced" person elect to fly in a difficult location? Might just a tiny bit of common sense suggest starting out with a relatively cheap toy MR make a lot more sense?
There are a lot of thinking people out there that understand they need to crawl before they walk, and walk before they run. Seems with multirotors that is not the case. OTOH, that same person would not buy an RC airplane and try to hand catch it. Why does having the propeller on the front instead of on top provide the airplane more safety consideration?
You seem to think I'm cruel and heartless. That's not true at all and I'll teach anyone that wants to learn, but each has to start at the beginning. What IS cruel and heartless is seeing someone end up with over 90 stitches and staples in their face after getting hit with a multitrotor. Perhaps just one of these "inexperienced" people would prefer being able to stick their tounge out the side of their face through their cheek instead of being leaned on with a comment that was not meant to be ignored or forgotten.
I've been in the RC hobby for a very long time and have seen fingers lost, femoral arteries cut, planes hit people in the face, arms laid open, multirotors get loose and hit people, and know of some that have died, all because of a propeller or rotor blade. Most all of the accidents happened because those involved failed to consider the possible ramifications of their individual actions. Safety should not be considered after an "accident". Safety starts long before an activity commences. Anyone that does not "understand", is "inexperienced", or lacks comprehension of their equipment or how to use it and elects to charge full speed ahead despite their personal deficiencies has a problem they need to correct before they pick up a transmitter.
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I don't know about cruel and heartless. I can say that you seem to be very insure and feel the need to talk down to, or insult those that know less than you to try to prove to everyone that you are smarter than they. As I go through the forum, I see many of your posts where you do exactly that. Look at your comment..."
You also make a lot of negative assumptions just so you can insult people. Look at this response you posted, for example. You are so **** smart and above the rest of us that you are able to know, without asking in an non-insulting manner, that all of us newer people bought the TH as our first rig, and that we haven't started out with a cheaper MR. Then you assume they don't have common sense because they bought the TH as their first rig. Does your common sense tell you that it is a very safe rig to start out with because it is so advanced and practically flies itself? I understand you are so amazing that you ripped the TH out of the box, fired it up, and ran perfect Cable Cam routes without issue. Could it be that the TH is much more complicated than my other three MR's, and that it's so complex that it has a huge learning curve? I know not for you, but the rest of us flawed idiots that, "Lack Comprehension," may have a learning curve, or be totally confused by a poorly written owners manual, and thousands of videos of differing advice. Is it possible that he felt he was experienced enough to fly at the beach?
We are aware that he is not the flying genius you are, but maybe he took the time to see if it was windy at the beach first, that there were no people where he was flying, and that he has flown enough in the padded room, (you believe we should all stay in until we reach your level of perfection), to safely go to the beach with his too expensive TH, and maybe even had the brains to not try to land it on an uneven surface. I know it's a stretch for you to believe that he may have given a single thought to what he was doing before he did it, but why do you feel the need to insult anyone with a question that you may have known the answer to, long before he was even into RC's?
And who are you to decide what we can afford, or what constitutes an expensive rig? I don't consider this an expensive rig at all, especially considering what it's capabilities are. The only reason it wasn't my first, in your eyes is no common sense or thought to safety, but the truth is, without your negative assumptions that make you assume the worst in everyone before knowing their story, is that I was waiting for it to come out, see the reviews, and then waiting for availability in a store where I could put my hands on it before buying. You know, so I didn't make a poorly educated decision and need to come on here asking you to, "Coddle" me.
Go back through your posts and try to see if you show "common sense" or forethought in all the instances where you assumed the worst in people, and that they are inexperienced and stupid, or that this rig is too expensive to be their first. Please point me to the post where all these lesser people than yourself have asked you to "Coddle" them. In fact, I don't see a lot of cases where they specifically asked you to help them with your condescending advice. I know this may be a blow to your inflated ego, or lack thereof, making you feel the need to show everyone that they are not as good as you, but you really could think about how you talk to people that haven't reached your level of flying. Again, many of us spent several months studying everything we could read, and every video and review we could find before even buying one, but with the high tech nature of these, and the ever changing advice, and even updates, us lower level of humans can get confused.
I would have loved to be at the funeral of the person you say died, and watched you go up and speak.
"Ya, we'll all miss Joe, but he was an F'n idiot that had no business operating an RC toy before mastering a balsa wood plane, and I feel sorry for his wife and children sitting here, probably crying because they know their dad was a piece of crap that didn't have the common sense or nerve to ask for my insulting advice before flying."
We've all seen your type before, and see right through your need to show us how much better you are than the rest of us. We usually saw that behavior in those people as children though, and most never grew out of it. I'm sure you can relate.
