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Drones Prohibited!

When I mentioned that I could fly over after taking off outside the park the park employee said, "You can't do that!" My reply of course was, "You don't own the airspace." She then requested I don't do that.[/QUOTE]


You CAN in fact Do Just That!!!
 
I think this was the 3rd incident you were trying to recall :)
Visitor crashes drone into Yellowstone’s largest hot spring

Yes, that was the 3rd one. Thanks for the link.

I find it ironic that they consider using a manned helicopter to see if they can locate the drone. The fear is that a leaking battery and 2 pounds of plastic might be harmful to the springs delicate microbial makeup. I wonder how much better it would be if 1500lbs of helicopter crashed into it while it was trying to locate the tiny drone, now you have a much larger battery and a hundred gallons of fuel and oil leaking, brilliant thinking...lets make things potentially much worse!

I have an idea, lets take a UAV, fit it with say a real good 250mm lens/camera setup, tie a light weight cable to it, fly it over and locate the crashed drone, then figure out which other type of drone will be the best choice to get it out. Clean, cheap, safe, fast and easy. And if anything goes wrong, we have the cable attached and we just pull it out.

Do any of you know anyone with a drone?
 
Whatever happened to "common sense"? Well, I'll tell you. The individuals that are running our government for the most part respond to the "bottom line". Relax! Pretty soon the individuals that will run for office are those that today are unable to tell you who the Vice President is, which country we declared our independence from, what year we gained independence, or who won the Civil War! I thank the Lord that I will probably be gone when they take office! Meanwhile, "common sense" dictates when, where and how I fly my drone. Whether it's fear of hurting someone or a cautious attitude toward "breaking" laws and rules, I'm judicious when considering flight.
 
I have lots of guns and several Drones all of which are properly registered and used in a responsible manner. I am against government overreach and intrusion and believe they and their laws are like glass in a window, they only protect against and keep out the honest people. No law will ever stop a bad heart or stupidity! BTW good morning fellow droners, have a great day may your skies be blue and the winds stay calm.
 
The Kentucky Judge made the decision before the FAA making us register.(without the proper public input period) So if that's true IMO, at that time it was a pesky toy. Now slap a FAA registration on it, it becomes a whole different legal matter.
 
Soon, the only place we will be able to fly, is in the garage :(

Luckily enough for me, I'm Canadian, and we don't (yet) have all the "Can't Fly Here" policies like the good ol' US of A. So worried about flying cameras, but let every single lunatic have a gun. I don't think your government has their priorities straight.
You are correct , our socialist government is a mess. I am a drone pilot, also have owned guns for 40 years. I must be a lunatic.
 
There was a very interesting article published today on the biggest gun salesman owning stocks in the "offending companies":)
MN just set a record for permit to carry and purchase permits last month
 
Soon, the only place we will be able to fly, is in the garage :(

Luckily enough for me, I'm Canadian, and we don't (yet) have all the "Can't Fly Here" policies like the good ol' US of A. So worried about flying cameras, but let every single lunatic have a gun. I don't think your government has their priorities straight.
Our government doesn't give us the right to own a gun, it's a God given right to protect yourself. Too bad your government took it away from you. Stick to drone flying topics and respect other counties.
 
God is pro-gun eh? Wow, who knew!
I said it's a God given right to protect yourself. If someone wants to hurt or kill you or your loved ones and you prefer not to do anything that's up to you, but no government should have the right to prohibit you from doing so. I also don't think people from other countries should be taking cheap shots at my country. It's disrespectful and cowardly when you can hide behind anonymity. But I guess that's what you get on the internet.
 
Welll excuse me for not being truly annonymous Mr. "roadking", but it's not me taking cheap shots at your country according to every new source it's your fellow US gunholding citizens.
 
I said it's a God given right to protect yourself. If someone wants to hurt or kill you or your loved ones and you prefer not to do anything that's up to you, but no government should have the right to prohibit you from doing so. I also don't think people from other countries should be taking cheap shots at my country. It's disrespectful and cowardly when you can hide behind anonymity. But I guess that's what you get on the internet.


O.k., Not Sure how this turned into a political debate and an international incident involving Canada and the U.S.A. I guess in an earlier post I compared drone laws to gun laws, not to start a discussion about the 2nd amendment or whether or not god is pro gun. It was more about our right to fly and how if we aren't vigilant, we may lose that right. Does government overreach, yes. But nonetheless we still need some regulations on guns, cars, smog, water and even drones. Will bad people do bad things with the very thing we use for art, sport, pleasure and recreation? Yes, they will, but it's how we react to it that will determine our future flight plans. We need to pay attention to what our law makers are up to. And speak up when they are headed in the wrong direction, that in itself is the basis for a government of the people, by the people and for the people!


That being said, lets try to keep this forum about UAVs, having fun and flying responsibly. And lets also restore the peace between our 2 countries. :) If you want debate what UAV laws should be, then you have come to right place. Let's talk about it now! In fact I challenge everyone reading this: If it were up to you what would the UAV laws be? The rules, none at all, the only thing to keep in mind is that currently there are 87000 flights per day in the U.S. about 1/3rd are commercial, by 2020 that # could likely be around 10 million once drones of all types are integrated. And experts also say the majority of those flights will actually be commercial. So yes we need clear cut laws that allow for everyone to use the airspace, SAFELY.


If you want to debate politics, religion or the constitution, I'll be happy to accommodate anyone, just not here.

P.S., for the record, I am a godless heathen who happens to believe: I got nothing from any god. The 2nd amendment was created by very wise men, The USA was not given to us by god, rather, the Brits actually took it from the natives(of course later on we took it from them and just kept it) and protecting ourselves is a biologic instinct that resides in every form of life on the planet. And while I agree with the 2nd amendment, I also think that after 200+ years, it could use some tweaks.
 
With the benefit of hindsight the first thing I'd have done if I was in charge of drone law would have been to crack down so hard on any violation of airspace or existing regulations that the offender wouldn't be able to afford a hobby of any kind for at least 2 years. I'd also have done this 3-4 years ago BEFORE buying an off the shelf drone strapping half a kilo of explosives to it and flying it straight downtown or into a school yard was even a possibility.
 
One was able to buy military target drones in the eighties. Even a few power plants from Tomahawks where going pretty cheap,(1 ton at 500plus mph) just need a few more brains than the average Joe has to make a acceptable craft. Considering the security at most small airports around the country, jacking a small plane is easier. Lot of easier ways to cause mass hysteria and damage than with the smaller UAVs. Just prefer to not to discuss all the ways on a open forum. High Explosives have with little effort have become very hard to obtain with a couple simple steps.
 
I think the death-throw for our hobby was that guy last year putting out a video of a gun on a drone and firing it. That in itself made every law enforcement agency in the world pay attention. If a hobbyist can do that, then a person with motivation can certainly recreate it.
I've said it before, "Soon the only place we will be able to fly is in the garage."
 
I think the death-throw for our hobby was that guy last year putting out a video of a gun on a drone and firing it. That in itself made every law enforcement agency in the world pay attention. If a hobbyist can do that, then a person with motivation can certainly recreate it.
I've said it before, "Soon the only place we will be able to fly is in the garage."

Agreed, I actually left him a pretty nasty comment on his youtube page. This is the kind of B.S. that we have to deal as a community.
There are actually quite a few good organzations that we can join that further our interests in the UAV world, here are a couple of links if you are interested. Home – UAV Expert News HOME - Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International NASA Seeks Airspace Operation Ideas – UAV Expert News just to get things started.

Glad to see interest in this!
 
Wonder why there was not near the attention to when someone mounted a firearm on a remotely operated buggy?Now we have computer aided firing systems that can allow a novice to easily out shoot a well trained sniper.
 
Wonder why there was not near the attention to when someone mounted a firearm on a remotely operated buggy?Now we have computer aided firing systems that can allow a novice to easily out shoot a well trained sniper.
because flying drones are way scarier than land based drones, don't ask me why, but the media likes to overhype pretty much everything. It's like the pit bull problem, if a cocker spaniel bites somebody( and they bite than any other breed), it's just a dog bite and wont get much attention, but if a pit bull bites, it's "vicious pit bull attack" and the next thing you know cities ban them, insurance rates go up if you own one and everyone thinks they are inherently bad animals. The truth is the pit bull by nature is one of the sweetest most loyal animals you will ever find, they just had rotten humans.

A few weeks ago a camera drone fell out of the sky and missed a skier by a few feet, he didn't even knew it happened till he got to the bottom, but the media..as they always do, got a major hard-on for the story and headlines were any thing from "drone falls from sky nearly hits skier" to "SKIER NEARLY CRUSHED TO DEATH BY FALLING DRONE", and while this was a close call to be sure, no one bothered to ask " why did it fall from the sky" was it pilot error, equipment failure, or did someone throw something at it. It actually took me quite some time before i was able to dig up info on who was flying the drone. It was a company hired by the event and everything was done legally. but do we care about actual facts, nope, facts don't always sell ads, but sensationalism does!!!

And that's what we have to deal with if we want to keep flying!
 
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I have been hearing on the idiot box on several different news channels that there is a 30 mile ban on drone use for the Super bowl.
Hopefully someone will challenge the FAAs ruling without public comment period and get some common sense about some normal use of them. Photography is a big hobby and the almost banning of use of UAVs by making the prohibitive by making their use very expensive. There is far easier ways to deliver mass harm.
yes that is true i live in san jose and they have stated this on the local news.
 

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