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update on tunas software. unfortunately I have a glitch with the h520 st16s controller that had missions on it. on a perfectly working unit you will not get the missions option.
Hi all! I've been mapping with the H520 in stock and augmented hardware PPK configurations for two years and would be happy to answer any questions. I am on the flight Beta team with focus on surveying and firmwares. I don't think anyone here has gotten the official word that the Leica Ion camera or a version of it will not be compatible with the H520. You know Leica also makes GNSS RTK-capable hardware right?
Interested in your knowledge on surveying, 3D and various terrain imaging.
If I understand... are you using a 3rd party PPK. I've recently examined the Klau PPK systems, they offer both integrated for DJI and more open add-on designs for other platforms.
Would you mind sharing your workflow... like an overview. I'd enjoy seeing what you've applied to obtain market results. Are you processing your images locally, product on cloud, or services?
You using the E90 to collect, are you/have you mounted any other cameras too?
If possible, on the Beta side... is there new product on the horizon, software app, Firmware, hardware?
I have very little info on the Leica payload, I may be the village idiot in the group too.
You mention Leica payload, are you suggesting the Leica will be a payload for several crafts or separate Leica hardware for different platforms? Have they considered a different mount adapter if needed to provide cross-platform payloads.
A few previous posts above indicated "tests" have show it near the caliber of the Zenmuse X7. Is the Leica a Full Frame Super 35 sensor? Will or does it have interchangeable lenses similar to the X7 or X5S? The X7 uses a proprietary DL mount, any news on the Leica setup?
According to the interview with Yuneec executives, Yuneec has entered into a strategic partnership with Leica.
This could mean several things, as far as the Leica Ion L1 it is a fixed lens with fixed aperture and electronic shutter and a 1” sensor. Hopefully this will just be the first of many payloads offered by Leica and Yuneec, it would be nice to see something with an interchangeable lens system and at least a M4/3 sensor.
That is all I know (and all of this information I got online) maybe some other members can address your questions further. I am only a hobby drone user and am clueless when it comes to APK PPK etc...
Hi Doug. First a little background. I work for a general contractor that self-performs excavation, utilities and concrete. We also build buildings, but are mostly a construction manager at that point. My past life as a land surveyor brought me into the company to start an in-house survey program. This was 17 years ago and here we are now surveying with drones. Our primary goals for drone surveying are pre-construction topographics, materials management, inspections and asbuilt final surveys.Interested in your knowledge on surveying, 3D and various terrain imaging.
If I understand... are you using a 3rd party PPK. I've recently examined the Klau PPK systems, they offer both integrated for DJI and more open add-on designs for other platforms.
Would you mind sharing your workflow... like an overview. I'd enjoy seeing what you've applied to obtain market results. Are you processing your images locally, product on cloud, or services?
You using the E90 to collect, are you/have you mounted any other cameras too?
If possible, on the Beta side... is there new product on the horizon, software app, Firmware, hardware?
I have very little info on the Leica payload, I may be the village idiot in the group too.
You mention Leica payload, are you suggesting the Leica will be a payload for several crafts or separate Leica hardware for different platforms? Have they considered a different mount adapter if needed to provide cross-platform payloads.
A few previous posts above indicated "tests" have show it near the caliber of the Zenmuse X7. Is the Leica a Full Frame Super 35 sensor? Will or does it have interchangeable lenses similar to the X7 or X5S? The X7 uses a proprietary DL mount, any news on the Leica setup?
I think that has been on the request menu since the H520 was rolled out. It is absolutely stupid to have to purchase another system to do videography when putting out the money for a professional commercial system. At most it should be a software switch. The E90 and C23 are the same camera.I can't comment much on the H520/Leica/RTK partnering, but we're in the ballpark. I'm working on getting one of my H520's upgraded for RTK and then I will only use Emlid as the base station. It does confuse me though why there still needs to be a separation between media and mapping. Photographers and videographers may not care about mapping, but I can tell you that mappers care about photos and videos. To me that is a software versioning effort.
That's been my opinion as well... the only limitation has been firmware. The H520 should be the aggregate total of all models plus it's mapping features. There isn't any media featue not obtainable by the H520 that the H-Plus can perform. It's a bit insulting when a platform half the cost and same exact architecture other than FW can perform cinematic features.I think that has been on the request menu since the H520 was rolled out. It is absolutely stupid to have to purchase another system to do videography when putting out the money for a professional commercial system. At most it should be a software switch. The E90 and C23 are the same camera.
The PPK appears to have much less hardware and a much lower investment.
That's been my opinion as well... the only limitation has been firmware. The H520 should be the aggregate total of all models plus it's mapping features. There isn't any media featue not obtainable by the H520 that the H-Plus can perform. It's a bit insulting when a platform half the cost and same exact architecture other than FW can perform cinematic features.
You are probably correct, although that confuses me a bit. Each RTK vs PPK system I examine; the setup, need of Ground station & GCP setup appear to be different. The cost to add a RTK system compared to adding a PPK system are much lower cost. I may not be comparing apples to apples, and that's my end for not fully understanding.I got lost somewhere. The hardware is exactly the same, the only difference between RTK and PPK is that the first position is calculated in real time and the second is done by prosprocessing. Both have advantages and disadvantages depending on the circumstances of the flight. Am I lost?
Yes Sir, we've come a long way since manually entering coordinates into an HP48 calculator! Prior to the drone I use to go up in a Robinson R22 to take project aerials, but that was only about 3-4 years ago.Plenty of great survey info to absorb!
You're coming from the 'ole walk the ground survey, manual plots and calculations! You'd be a good one to relate how it's all changed and if there's been a significant benefit or improvement other than time element. Did you previously use aerial via aircraft?
Curious why shelving P4P due to discontinued sales... wouldn't it provide services for several years to come? I know vendors still offering PPK hardware for the Inspire 1 and it's been out of production for years. Actually on DroneU they made the comment when P4Pv2 ceased production that several shops were buying multiple P4Pv2 units for inventory.
H520 mount: I saw a mount... maybe German company that made 3D mounts for the H520 for various devices. You made your own mount for the RTK / PPK hardware?
Interesting you state the GCP's will remain. The PPK methodology seems to minimize the GCP, althogh they do use GCP's more as markers and not accuracy points... if I understand the various workflow from various vendors.
I currently use a simplistic method; collect a construction site via "Maps made easy" grid pattern for visual progress, Insurance requirements, elementary volumetric ability and provide Clients the layers to show progress. Use same images for 3D model. Push it up to MME for processing. Then download the mesh and various files to explore on local software. Soon to start processing my images locally with Metashape to compare results.
The simplistic terrain image map has motivated interest to greater accuracy and per inquires if I could provide in both a construction and Ag environments... so learning or attempting to learn. I was looking at the RTK but had recently started to examine and focus on PPK systems. One aspect was the ability to move the core hardware between platforms with the use of separate mounts. The company listed above is my recent discovery & focus. The PPK appears to have much less hardware and a much lower investment.
I'm doing my best to get Yuneec and DroneDeploy to talk to each other!It's as easy as making a software modification and we can install the application that uses the H PLUS on the H520. You don't even need to integrate it into DataPilot. Simply when you want to make photo and video you start an application, for everything else DataPilot.
A base is needed for both solutions whether it be a physical local base or a CORS/VRS service. You can use NOAA or DOT GNSS logs instead of a base, but I have not had consistent luck with that.Read a little more... I understand the RTK corrects during flight, and PPK corrects post flight. Although the need of base station or GCP exists for RTK but isn’t required with several PPK systems. Based on that I assumed there were differences. But it does look like it uses the the OEM RTK hardware if equipped, if not OEM, a different solution is often provided for PPK.
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