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CES 2018; Yuneec 3 announces: Typhoon H Plus, Firebird FPV airplane and HD racer drones

Well, from what I have read here we do not know a thing.

Maybe sit on our hands for a forntight or so and let all specualtions die down until we know something by official channels.
I think that wil at least take until CES is over and the dust @the participants shops and offices has settled.

Another nice newbie @CES is the new Autel.
Mavic is going to get killed by this one, I guess.

I just watched the promo...I think you are correct. I love my Xstar and it’s a good design so I’m glad I’ve waited to pull trigger on folding camera drone. The S6 was at my Best Buy here with no price and no one even knowing why. Maybe they’ll carry this new Autel.
 
And I do not take it with humor, I think we were the beautiful bumps in history.
And what do we do with our H520s that are unable to do the tenth of the H plus.

I feel like I bet on the wrong horse.
I'm in the same damned boat my friend! I bought the H520 with all 3 camera platforms because I was assured that it would be a much better, well thought-out product than the DJI M200...for a fraction of the price. ...well, here I am with a $6600.00 paperweight that I could have used to buy a $10,000.00 platform that would be outside flying in the snow and rain...I cannot describe how pissed off I am...
 
Turning quickly to the subject of banned flying areas, it is not the law that prevents flying in those areas, it is the manufacturer who places the ban on you and makes an economic distinction if you want it not to be so. I am always in favour of safety, but not of this kind of prohibition, which does not seek safety but something else.
I would be surprised if Yuneec imposed any arbitrary limitations: it is in their interest to sell as many as possible and restrictions are bad for sales. But in order to sell drones legally, they are having to comply with - and help to enforce - the restrictions set out in national legislation. But any pilot who can show the authorities that he is properly qualified and insured can get around the restrictions. Seems reasonable to me. I certainly don't want random drones intruding upon Heathrow's airspace - or filming through my bathroom window.

I was interested to read the regulations set out by a local authority in the UK for their own staff to fly the in-house (DJI) drone on council business.
 
No
The drone will be $1799
And $2199 for Realsense version.
Both come with C23 camera
If the Yuneec guy interviewed at CES knew what he was talking about, the RealSense version is currently priced at $1799 (which was also the price quoted in Yuneec's own press release this week) with the standard version at $1499 - both including camera.

He also spoke of June availability which would be disappointing after Yuneec UK told me March/April.
 
But on the other hand, I spent a lot of time this week with excel trying to make a profit with my H Pro, and I can't do it at reasonable prices, based on former experience. Yes- I can have a decent, self-sustaining hobby, but it's hardly a career. Then take the numbers up where I would like to be- inspections. A M200 with a selection of cameras is within my realm, but how in the heck do I get an ROI on that level of equipment? I think the REAL money in drones, is selling them.

You're quite possibly right. Especially if your goal is making money.

I come from the photography side of things. The vast majority of DSLR and mirrorless cameras and lenses are NOT sold to people trying to make money with them. They are sold to amateurs/hobbyists - however you'd like to classify them. BTW amateur means someone who does it for the love of it.

Many photographers are quite interested in drones for videography and photography. The H+ might fill a niche for them. It can provide good stills and good 4K video along with great flying features. I think it may stack up nicely against the current DJI product line.

Right now a lot of landscape photographers are using DJI Mavic Pros for its portability while wishing it had a better camera.

The real challenge comes when they have to acquire the video production skills. You don't learn Apple Final Cut Pro or Adobe Premiere or DaVinci Resolve overnight.
 
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I would be surprised if Yuneec imposed any arbitrary limitations: it is in their interest to sell as many as possible and restrictions are bad for sales. But in order to sell drones legally, they are having to comply with - and help to enforce - the restrictions set out in national legislation. But any pilot who can show the authorities that he is properly qualified and insured can get around the restrictions. Seems reasonable to me. I certainly don't want random drones intruding upon Heathrow's airspace - or filming through my bathroom window.

I was interested to read the regulations set out by a local authority in the UK for their own staff to fly the in-house (DJI) drone on council business.

44 sheets, my friend. I get sweaty just thinking about it. Wouldn't you like to make a brief summary of the most important things in the thread I've put in and we'll talk there with those who are interested in the topic?
 
44 sheets, my friend. I get sweaty just thinking about it. Wouldn't you like to make a brief summary of the most important things in the thread I've put in and we'll talk there with those who are interested in the topic?
Doesn't this topic have a thread of its own? It seems OTT to drown the new products thread in regulatory grievances.
 
The real challenge comes when they have to acquire the video production skills. You don't learn Apple Final Cut Pro or Adobe Premiere or DaVinci Resolve overnight.
I have been using FCP and Premiere for decades and I'm still learning how to make better videos. The technical side of editing is learnable in a reasonable timeframe; but the art side takes a lifetime. Even some big studio motion pictures are sub-optimally edited - by people who know how to use all the tools.

But a beginner can do a pretty decent basic job with iMovie, and that's free.
 
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I have been using FCP and Premiere for decades and I'm still learning how to make better videos. The technical side of editing is learnable in a reasonable timeframe; but the art side takes a lifetime. Even some big studio motion pictures are sub-optimally edited - by peope who know how to use all the tools.

But a beginner can do a pretty decent basic job with iMovie, and that's free.

Well said. As a photographer, iMovie was a great way to dip my toe into video and produce results that didn't suck. However, it didn't take long for me to look for ways to do more with color, histograms, etc. Final Cut Pro X 10.4 gives me what I was looking for. BTW, I'm still learning my way with FCP X

Your statement should be printed and framed:

The technical side of editing is learnable in a reasonable timeframe; but the art side takes a lifetime.

One thing I was lucky to stumble on for drone video was this playlist on YouTube that got me headed in a good direction.

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I think you may under underestimate the number of photographers and videographers who will be very interested in the TH+ because of the good camera and willing to pay that price. It has many features that likely place it above the DJI Phantom Pro and near the Inspire at a competitive price.

I think the features they provide through the system software will have a lot of impact on sales. There is an absolute need for the ability to program a flight prior to leaving the ground, or direct the aircraft to a location, or point the camera via some type of "touch" method. PX4 does not need much in the way of SDK's as many features are available if the system is "open" to user access. Lacking those the system will fall far short of what it could be. If the FPV Guy interview provided valid pricing the H Plus will be attractive to many, especially those that find DJI's intrusions intolerable. Take the FPV Guy with a grain of salt as everything he does a video on is always wonderful and fantastic. He doesn't get all that free stuff by saying anything negative.
 
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I’ve surfed through threads and google... found many references yet other locations contradicted. If there is a thread that already covers the ST16 models please direct me to it.

With the introduction of the new H Plus, with an “updated” ST16. As a newby to Yuneec, why isn’t the model slightly changed to represent a difference. I understand the “16” component, but identical names? It makes used parts confusing. Dissimilar cars share name, but Year is tacked on to differentiate and to identify.

Wouldn’t a ST16, ST16+, ST16v2, ST16v3 add a little clarification. And why no backward compatibility, the newest ST16 dosen’t support any older models... with an IT background, that’s just lazy coding, it’s easy to include a matrix in OS that applies different parameters based on attached devices; maybe even include a FW update for older generations to gain a few enhancements. I would think 1 controller for multiple models would be a major selling point... granted in the short term less profit. Tease that new ST16 had brighter screen, faster processing, more tactile feel... you’d see a lot upgrading their controllers.... just look at cell phones, no desire / need to upgrade other than “faster & improved”.

The H480’s ST16 and ST16+ (ST16 Plus, or ST16s)... only difference was moving the 3rd antenna from internal to external. Is there a model identifier for the 3rd antenna model... not on the controller, the 2 & 3 antenna indicate the same model. No FW or design changes?

The H520’s ST16, also called the ST16s. I’ve read it’s a major FW difference. It’s indicated H520 ST16 is a 64 bit OS, but that too is confusing when all ST16 models are Android OS. Are the ST16 h480 on older 32 bit processors, or just older FW, can they load H520 ST16 FW? Can a H520 ST16 be downgraded in FW to be used on an h480, or can a H520 ST16 bind and controll a h480?

To verify... I’m asking; no compatibility between H480 & H520 ST16?

The new H Plus, supposedly has a new ST16, but may be same as H520 with new FW change. But high speculation not compatible with H520.

While on subject of models, the new H Plus has more parts and size similar to the H520. Why share name of smaller model; adds to confusion. The H Pro owners immediately ponder if upgrades, FW, props, etc can be upgraded when it’s actually more of a question of the H520. If wanted to distinguish it as new superb model and keeping with the naming theme, should have named it Twister H515 (I don’t know the diameter).
 
Is their anyone on the site that will have a chance to get a shot of any of these drones before general release to give us a proper understanding of this H+ or the warbird
 
To my knowledge there's 3 versions, now perhaps 4, of the ST-16. The original two antenna version as released with the H-480 standard, the ST-16 "Pro" with 3 antennas as provided with the H-480 Pro and with the 920 Plus, and the ST-16s as provided for the 520. Interestingly, when using an ST-16 with the 920+ you can also use it for the H-480 but it alters the features that are available for each platform and the camera type selected. The release of the H Plus ST-16s will quite likely have some software alterations that prevent making use of the 520's mapping capability and DataPilot. Why they don't simplify the naming conventions with a means to track differences is beyond me.
 
Is their anyone on the site that will have a chance to get a shot of any of these drones before general release to give us a proper understanding of this H+ or the warbird

I'd love to get my hands on the fixed wing. With many years of fixed wing RC and UAV history flying it and making use of the system would be easy for me to give it a good drubbing and find out what it can do. The H Plus would be nice to try out as well but my guess is Yuneec is not very happy with me at the moment. Hopefully the upper level moderators and those that tested the 520 will get some to try out. Steve Carr, arruntus, and Haydn would be good candidates and cover three continents.
 
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Will the wizard be supported? How will Follow me/Watch me work? Would one have to lug around the ST16S for those modes to work?
 

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