Yes, I agree with you. But my point is that there is a limit and lowering it or even making it zero, will make no difference to those that drive while drunk.
Gatwick flights suspended after reports of drones over runway
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[QUOTE Oh well, I was so looking forward to seeing pictures of those drones as well......[/QUOTE]
I'm with you in that regard, I want to see the drones. There were 'over fifty reports' so I assume that some, maybe even most were credible and though it is unlikely that most people would be able to get a good picture of a drone randomly appearing over the airport, after the shutdown I believe there would have been people within the security and police community assigned to capturing good images of the drones with the right equipment. So I believe that there are good pictures to be seen, but the authorities aren't releasing them yet for their own reasons - possibly why they zeroed in on the couple in Crawley.
I'm with you in that regard, I want to see the drones. There were 'over fifty reports' so I assume that some, maybe even most were credible and though it is unlikely that most people would be able to get a good picture of a drone randomly appearing over the airport, after the shutdown I believe there would have been people within the security and police community assigned to capturing good images of the drones with the right equipment. So I believe that there are good pictures to be seen, but the authorities aren't releasing them yet for their own reasons - possibly why they zeroed in on the couple in Crawley.
Not hard to use mobile networks on UAV's. People using Parrot Bebop have been doing it for a long time. Just search youtube for SkyShit Booster. Low level long distance flying in a nice little package.
Mmmmm. Police all over the place, with helicopters that have infra-red cameras, the worlds TV broadcasters there with broadcast quality TV cameras, no pictures other than some low quality stills and couple of blurry video's probably hijacked from YouTube..... Was it PatR who said. "How many holes do you have to have in a bucket before it'll hold no water".
Let's see some proper pictures of this supposedly crashed drone that they've found! Please. I said please......
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Mmmmm. Police all over the place, with helicopters that have infra-red cameras, the worlds TV broadcasters there with broadcast quality TV cameras, no pictures other than some low quality stills and couple of blurry video's probably hijacked from YouTube..... Was it PatR who said. "How many holes do you have to have in a bucket before it'll hold no water".
Let's see some proper pictures of this supposedly crashed drone that they've found! Please. I said please......
I hate the idea that some working class guy who has never been a criminal element might have been mistakenly targeted because of coincidence. Chances are someone falsely reported this guy because he had a history of drones and RC helis. Cheap shot in such tense times.
Indeed. And he's also ex-military having seen active service in Bosnia.... Anyone in that area who is known to have a drone is going to be fair game at the moment.
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There is still no proof that any drone was flown, anywhere, to trigger the airport shut down. None at all.
From Det Ch Supt Jason Tingley
"He added there was "always a possibility that there may not have been any genuine drone activity in the first place", but they were working on a range of information from members of the public, police officers and staff working at Gatwick who had reported otherwise"
"He added there was "always a possibility that there may not have been any genuine drone activity in the first place", but they were working on a range of information from members of the public, police officers and staff working at Gatwick who had reported otherwise"
I don't get it then so if he has said this what happened to the supposed crashed drone total white wash if you ask me
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I'm with you in that regard, I want to see the drones. There were 'over fifty reports' so I assume that some, maybe even most were credible and though it is unlikely that most people would be able to get a good picture of a drone randomly appearing over the airport, after the shutdown I believe there would have been people within the security and police community assigned to capturing good images of the drones with the right equipment. So I believe that there are good pictures to be seen, but the authorities aren't releasing them yet for their own reasons - possibly why they zeroed in on the couple in Crawley.[/QUOTE]
this whole thing stinks
first reports of drones at 9.03pm on Wednesday this was all over the news by 10pm
reopened at 3.01am on Thursday morning but closed 45 minutes later after a further drone sighting
then another at around 9am Thursday by this stage there would have been reporters all around the place with camera men sporting some of the best cameras and lenses you can get your hands on hoping to capture a picture of the drone and yet after allegedly 50 reports of drones there is not 1 clear picture anywhere to be seen
then 2 people arrested and there names released with out even being charged ( if i was them i would be suing the *** of who every leaked there names breach of privacy and data protection )
and now a so called crashed drone that could have been a flyaway from 6 mouths ago
its all bs
If you notice on that link I posted the reporters were already at their house when police brought them back total load of crap the whole thing is fishy a department that does not work by the law did this not the 2 accused
LOL! It gets better and better. Apparently, the so called crashed drone was not found by the police or the swarms of authorities that are pouring all over Gatwick. No, it was found by a member of the public! I'm not being cynical here but do you think that could be an attempt to get their hands on the £50K reward
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As the "drone invasion" story is starting to come apart at the seams, let's take a walk on the wild side for a moment, think outside the box, and toss a few scenarios where "theoreticals" are used a bit. During all of it let's assume that a drone was never involved at all, but used as a scapegoat as they have been well demonized by the media, especially where conflicts with manned aircraft are concerned, making them an easy target. For expediency we'll assume governments lie to the public on a continuous basis and that the media only cares about publishing news that sells advertising. Accuracy and fatcualtiy are meaningless to them. Those last parts are not theoretical.
What if the airport's computer systems had been hacked by outsiders? What if such a hack prevented the use of ATC routing information, which would cause what's known as a "terminal hold" at the affected airport? What if the government did not want the public to learn that ATC computer systems could be hacked, interrupting flight operations and endangering passengers on aircraft already in flight? Might using illegally flown drones be an easy cover up?
What if the ATC computers had simply broken down due to age and lack of maintenance? It's pretty well established that airport computer and radar systems around the world are antiquated and not well maintained. Here in the U.S. the legislated upgrades to air traffic control equipment is 15-30 years behind schedule. What if a government did not want the public to become aware of the state of airport equipment in order to avoid being viewed as careless with public safety and being forced to spend money to update the systems? Might drones be blamed to obscure the actual cause of an airport shut down?
Does the government have the ability to distribute misinformation and direct/deploy military and police resources in any manner they desire? In "total surveillance" countries, a class in which the U.K. is a member, might they be easy things to accomplish? Bear in mind that all military personnel and most, if not all, law enforcement personnel, are sworn to secrecy.
Both the above are totally plausible but I have another "out there" theory that actually makes more sense that I'm saving for another post.
What if the airport's computer systems had been hacked by outsiders? What if such a hack prevented the use of ATC routing information, which would cause what's known as a "terminal hold" at the affected airport? What if the government did not want the public to learn that ATC computer systems could be hacked, interrupting flight operations and endangering passengers on aircraft already in flight? Might using illegally flown drones be an easy cover up?
What if the ATC computers had simply broken down due to age and lack of maintenance? It's pretty well established that airport computer and radar systems around the world are antiquated and not well maintained. Here in the U.S. the legislated upgrades to air traffic control equipment is 15-30 years behind schedule. What if a government did not want the public to become aware of the state of airport equipment in order to avoid being viewed as careless with public safety and being forced to spend money to update the systems? Might drones be blamed to obscure the actual cause of an airport shut down?
Does the government have the ability to distribute misinformation and direct/deploy military and police resources in any manner they desire? In "total surveillance" countries, a class in which the U.K. is a member, might they be easy things to accomplish? Bear in mind that all military personnel and most, if not all, law enforcement personnel, are sworn to secrecy.
Both the above are totally plausible but I have another "out there" theory that actually makes more sense that I'm saving for another post.
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i no what it is it was the windows 10 update that crashed mine also crashed there`s
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I'm trying to decide if I want to do it as some might read it and think I'm crazy or trying to write a "techno-thriller-mystery" novel. They may have a fair basis to call me nuts but I can't sit still long enough to write a book.
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