Hello Fellow Yuneec Pilot!
Join our free Yuneec community and remove this annoying banner!
Sign up

C23 freeze up

(OT) Bye the way: There are 3 things you never can explain and you are in gods hands:
- german jurisdiction
- the thinking of women
- the ways high frequency goes.

I will look deeper into data of sensor files but this will take time...

br HE
Did you have a chance to dig a little deeper? I'm curious.
 
Yes, I have been a bit lazy lately. The weather was quite good, so I was more outside.
I had looked at the data and had came to the point that there was some conflicting position data. This same at flight controller - reaction are messages, "No valid position" and he switches to manual mode. Pitchstick is still around +5% thus drone goes forward by itself. This is very disturbing in manual mode.
All_messages.png
Now the question is, where the strange data come from. If you only look at the GPS data alone (message GPS_RAW_INT), then it looks good, except for the values for the altitude.
GPS_Raw_int.png
If you look at the total data you see a different picture, so why?

It's a lot of different runs and comparison to look at all the MAVlink messages separately. I am still at it. Maybe here I have to adjust my analysis SW to get further.

Looking at the values for Altitude I can generate different views:
- Evaluating all messages
Altitude_all.png
I don't know from where thos oszillation dataset come.

- Looking on Position data
Altitude_position.png
This seems to be the result of some computing in the flight controller. It is the same as in the fligt2log data represented.

- Looking only to GPS data (this drop seems to be wrong)
Altitude_MSL_GPSraw.png
Here we see a not explainable drop in altitude. Those are wrong data from GPS (due to disturbed signal, multipath or something like that).


br HE
 
Yes, I have been a bit lazy lately. The weather was quite good, so I was more outside.
I had looked at the data and had came to the point that there was some conflicting position data. This same at flight controller - reaction are messages, "No valid position" and he switches to manual mode. Pitchstick is still around +5% thus drone goes forward by itself. This is very disturbing in manual mode.
View attachment 27978
Now the question is, where the strange data come from. If you only look at the GPS data alone (message GPS_RAW_INT), then it looks good, except for the values for the altitude.
View attachment 27979
If you look at the total data you see a different picture, so why?

It's a lot of different runs and comparison to look at all the MAVlink messages separately. I am still at it. Maybe here I have to adjust my analysis SW to get further.

Looking at the values for Altitude I can generate different views:
- Evaluating all messages
View attachment 27980
I don't know from where thos oszillation dataset come.

- Looking on Position data
View attachment 27982
This seems to be the result of some computing in the flight controller. It is the same as in the fligt2log data represented.

- Looking only to GPS data (this drop seems to be wrong)
View attachment 27981
Here we see a not explainable drop in altitude. Those are wrong data from GPS (due to disturbed signal, multipath or something like that).


br HE
Ok received another controller, and now it will not bind. Camera connects fine and has full control. Tried to bind the aircraft and have all green Flashing lights. So what can that potentially tell us?
 
Ok received another controller, and now it will not bind. Camera connects fine and has full control. Tried to bind the aircraft and have all green Flashing lights. So what can that potentially tell us?
When you said the camera "has full control", does that mean video control only?
Does it have pan/tilt control of the gimbal?

Does the drone ID show up on the bind screen when you tap the "refresh" ICON?
Similar question, does the drone ID show up on the original controller if you put the drone in the bind mode?
Drone ID.jpg
 
To bind the aircraft follow the instructions on page 49 in the attached manual.
 

Attachments

  • Typhoon_H_Plus_Manualv1.0.pdf
    6 MB · Views: 2
When you said the camera "has full control", does that mean video control only?
Does it have pan/tilt control of the gimbal?

Does the drone ID show up on the bind screen when you tap the "refresh" ICON?
Similar question, does the drone ID show up on the original controller if you put the drone in the bind mode?
View attachment 28003
Ok,, I was confusing controllers, trying to connect to new controller, camera connects to new controller picture only. Following all instructions and can't find the signal, camera id shows up but no drone. Icons for antenna show wifi signal for cam, but no other signal. Going into the monitor, shows no movement of any input and going into calibration, will not calibrate. Switch back to original controller shows signal for both, and it's still bound to the drone. Now with the original controller has tilt but no pan function.
 
Ok,, I was confusing controllers, trying to connect to new controller, camera connects to new controller picture only. Following all instructions and can't find the signal, camera id shows up but no drone. Icons for antenna show wifi signal for cam, but no other signal. Going into the monitor, shows no movement of any input and going into calibration, will not calibrate. Switch back to original controller shows signal for both, and it's still bound to the drone. Now with the original controller has tilt but no pan function.
Going into the monitor, shows no movement of any input....
That might be a biggie. If it is what I suspect it is, I refer to it as the "Dead Stick" issue. I've seen the problem several times, and each time seems to be a different resolution. In all cases (so far) the problem showed up after a firmware update went bad. (you can't tell the update is going bad unless you watch the screen very closely during the update). The resolutions have ranged from running the same update several times, changing the RF Module, forcing TX/RF update via alternate firmware, and a couple that just sort of "fixed themselves" With that said, the first question becomes;
Has there been a recent update to the problem controller?

Switch back to original controller shows signal for both, and it's still bound to the drone
Ain't it great to have a way to compare? :)
Love it when you can eliminate some possibilities.

Now with the original controller has tilt but no pan function.
That might be the proverbial "fly in the ointment". But first; Did you check the YAW (Pan) switch beside the knob to ensure it is not in the full up position?
 
Going into the monitor, shows no movement of any input....
That might be a biggie. If it is what I suspect it is, I refer to it as the "Dead Stick" issue. I've seen the problem several times, and each time seems to be a different resolution. In all cases (so far) the problem showed up after a firmware update went bad. (you can't tell the update is going bad unless you watch the screen very closely during the update). The resolutions have ranged from running the same update several times, changing the RF Module, forcing TX/RF update via alternate firmware, and a couple that just sort of "fixed themselves" With that said, the first question becomes;
Has there been a recent update to the problem controller?

Switch back to original controller shows signal for both, and it's still bound to the drone
Ain't it great to have a way to compare? :)
Love it when you can eliminate some possibilities.

Now with the original controller has tilt but no pan function.
That might be the proverbial "fly in the ointment". But first; Did you check the YAW (Pan) switch beside the knob to ensure it is not in the full up position?
No there’s new no new update to the problem controller( original) and now it’s not picking up any satellite but the H+ shows above 12
I have put in a call to John @yuneecskins and he doesn’t understand why the old controller picks up the aircraft but the new controller doesn’t. He also said that the monitor won’t show without a connection, ? But hey, he will read this thread later on today and get back to me. I’m telling you, ghost in the machine
 
No there’s new no new update to the problem controller( original) and now it’s not picking up any satellite but the H+ shows above 12
Sorry. I wasn't being clear. I meant any updates to the replacement controller.

It might be a good idea to check if the TX and RX subsystems on the replacement controller seem to be functioning. Refer to the attached PDF for a quick check of the version display. The actual version ID may differ. The important thing is that each displays a version number instead of a message saying "not found".
 

Attachments

  • Verify ST16S TX and RX Version Display.pdf
    591.5 KB · Views: 2
transmitter version: st16_transmitter_mcu_app_main_v00.28
radio version: Transmitter not response
This is the replacement controller
No updates done on this
 
radio version: Transmitter not response
OK. Now you need to get in touch with John. He may want you to send it back. Either the RF module is dead or there is a firmware glitch. The firmware glitch can often be corrected by forcing an RF firmware reload via temporarily converting the ST16S to an ST16. The conversion process may or may not work, and John may prefer you not even try.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ttmarch

New Posts

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
20,954
Messages
241,586
Members
27,284
Latest member
csandoval